Torsion xtra light treeless saddle. Torsion saddles are high quality treeless saddles made in Italy. Seat size 2 (equivalent to a 17"-18" english or 15"-16" western saddle). This saddle is compatible with english, western or endurance leathers/fenders and uses a short english girth and treeless saddle pad. This model retails for $1600, asking price for saddle alone is $650 or saddle with girth (choice of 24" or 26") and torsion stability stirrup leathers for $750 Located in Saanich but travel up to cowichan 1/month or shipping is available at buyers expense. Torsion website: http://www.torsion-shop-kaiser.de/torsion.php